Saturday, October 31, 2009

The Sabah/Sarawak issue (5)

Can someone out in blogosphere post the Timbunan Declaration which includes the 20-Point Agreement (above) plus?
I am wondering why Jeffrey joined PKR in the first place and is now imposing 3 conditions for consideration of PKR HQ? One would have thought he would have imposed those conditions before becoming a member and PKR Vice President. We believe in KeADILan Untuk Semua, but it must be based on the Constitution where the rights and obligations of member states of the Federation and Malaysian citizens are clearly defined.
It is impossible for anyone with self respect and dignity to negotiate at the point of a gun. That means Jeffery has no intention of remaining a PKR member. –Din Merican
By dinobeano on October 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm

the prime minister of 22 years was a real scoundrel and definately is without his foreskin. and i hope PKR accept all of JEFFERY KITINGAN’S conditions . all 3 seem to be consistent with the 20 point agreement . SABAH AND SARAWAK IS NOT A GIFT FROM THE BRITISH FOR IT TO BE PLUNDERED, CHEATED AND COLONISED BY THE MALAYS. IF THIS IS WHAT THE MALAYS THINK OF SABAH AND SARAWAK THEN IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM TO SECEDE .
By rashid hussein on October 29, 2009 at 9:31 pm

DIN ,
the timbunan declaration is not as important as the 20 point agreement . the 20 point agreement is the basis upon which sabah joined malaysia. and the 20 points are still the same as those i read in my history books. however, the federal government has consistently side stepped it . and this was especially true during the 22 years of the foreskinless prime minister .
i am sure you can see that for yourself DIN MERICAN!!!. so why wait for the timbunan declaration. WHAT JEFFERY KITINGAN HAS ASKED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 20 POINT AGREEMENT . DO U , DIN MERICAN ,THINK THE TIMBUNAN DECLARATION CAN OVERRIDE THE 20 POINT AGREEMENT? come on , you have enough experience to know better !!!.
By rashid hussein on October 29, 2009 at 9:42 pm

” It is impossible for anyone with self respect and dignity to negotiate at the point of a gun”. – din merican

DIN what about the self respect and dignity of our brothers and sisters in SABAH and SARAWAK ? ARE’NT they entitled to their self respect and dignity too ? if you read the 20 point agreement and understand it , you will realise that our brothers and sisters in SABAH and SARAWAK HAVE , FOR AS LONG AS THEY HAVE BEEN IN MALAYSIA , BEEN DENIED THEIR SELF RESPECT AND DIGNITY.
AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED OF USING THE ” GUN “. SO WHAT IN BLOODY HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DIN MERICAN ?
YOU SOUND AS BALLESS , FORESKINLESS AND CLUELESS AS THE MAN WHO RULED THE COUNTRY FOR 22 YEARS . THIS CHEATING OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN SABAH AND SARAWAK HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO AN END IF PKR WISHES TO REMAIN AND MAKE SOME HEADWAY IN SABAH AND SARAWAK .
By salmiah hassan on October 29, 2009 at 10:00 pm

Friday, October 30, 2009

The Sabah/Sarawak issue (4)

We are not unlike the Americans in South Vietnam; and Americans in Afghanistan today. In Vietnam in the 60s the Americans ended up supporting the corrupt regime of Ngo Dinh Diem who was eventually assassinated by the CIA. Perhaps the same fate awaits Hamid Karzai.
From the beginning we were supporting one corrupt regime after another. Tun Mustapha made himself governor and later chief minister, enriching himself through huge timber concessions in return for the role he played in bringing Sabah into the federation. The Sabah Air plane crash in 1975 which killed the Chief Minister Fuad Stephens and Peter Mojuntin and other state ministers might as well be divine retribution for the sins committed against the natives of Sabah.
Politics in Sabah were nothing more than power grabs by one set of thieves against the other with Kuala Lumpur supporting one against the other. When Tun Mustapha driven by greed fell out with Kuala Lumpur, there was Harris Salleh and Berjaya and when Berjaya lost in 1985, I met several of these thieves and looters during their self exile abroad. Several of them ended up being contemporaries of V.K. Lingam (of korek, korek fame) sharing the same alma mater.
By Mr Bean on October 28, 2009 at 5:58 am

Tun Mustapha made himself governor and later chief minister- Bean

Tun Mustapha was an ill educated native chief of suluk descent, who in his early years used to run errands for the Japs during the Japanese occupation.
On later years when the idea of forming Malaysia surfaced ,he was picked by the Brits as a representative of the Muslim native community to negotiate the setting-up of Malaysia.
What is not known to many is that Tun Mustapha was duped into taking up the position of ‘Gabenor’ by the rest of the better educated lot . The postion which he thought came with the powers similar to that of the British Governor.
Realising later that the governorship he was clinging on too unlike the status of the British Governor was purely ceremonial , after decisions were taken and done without his consent. He was enraged and began to revolt and with KLs helped and with religion as an excused , he was made CM.
But the manipulation did not end there , far from it.
For a person without proper credentials, who in the first place should’ve not been entrusted with the CMs post . It was an obvious recipe for disaster.
Apparently , with Tun Mustapha at the helm , It was the beginning of far worst things to come and with the arrival of KL sent Syed Kechik who in fact condoned every bad moved due to self-interest.
Syed Kechik , the man Tun Razak relied upon to assist Tun Mustapha was instead behind every misdemeanor of the states administration.

The Sabah Air plane crash in 1975 which killed the Chief Minister Fuad Stephens and Peter Mojuntin and other state ministers might as well be divine retribution for the sins committed against the natives of Sabah – Bean

It coud’ve been divine , for all we know
What ever it was , this double six air tragedy which occurred in 1976 has a telling tale behind it. But it wont be right for me to spell it out here. The story has several versions. I’ve my own but besides saying , as a young boy at that time and amongst the first to be at the site of the crashed which happened at the vicinity of where I once lived , its suffice to say , amongst the lost were family acquaintance and one of my best friends , his dad.
The rest of the details may be some other time.

By Danildaud on October 29, 2009 at 1:49 am

Small world Danildaud. Fascinating new light to Tun Mustapha. I believed he tried to take Sabah out of Malaysia? Or was it that Ningkan guy from Sarawak?

By Mr Bean on October 29, 2009 at 8:15 am

Wednesday, October 28, 2009

The Sabah/Sarawak issue (3)

Sabah has suffered much under Mustapaha, Fuad Stephen and Harris Salleh. They had treated the state as their own fiefdom helping themselves to the vast untapped natural resources available.
The current turmoil has much to do with how these past leaders had managed the state. I served in Kota Belud, Kudat and Bangi Island in the late 60s and early 70s and had seen the excesses of Tun Mustapha. His palatial bungalows in Kudat, Kota Belud and Kota Kinabalu stood out like a sore thump admist the slums of these Sabahan towns. Infamous Zakaria Darus of Port Klang pales in comparison.
You are right, Bean. There is no love lost. Sabahans (and Sarawakians) are wary of West Malaysians believing them to be the new colonists. Those days they would vent their frustration on us soldiers, especially members of the Malay regiments. That was then. It hasn’t changed much today.
PKR needs to find a way to overcome this negative perception. If and unless it is prepared to change, nothing much can come of its overtures however good they may sound or seen.
By Tok Cik on October 27, 2009 at 7:35 pm

Yep, remember the days that “West Malaysians” were welcomed only if they were holding passports.
Heck, in my profession the only way i could ‘practice’ there was to marry a local lass and get a permit, biri-biri notwithstanding!
By Menyalak-er on October 27, 2009 at 9:20 pm

No matter how embarassing it may be for a Sabahan to admit , but the reality is , the quality of leadership Sabah had produced down the years and keeps on producing is leading the state towards it’s own destruction
By Danildaud on October 28, 2009 at 12:58 am

Sunday, October 25, 2009

The Sabah/Sarawak issue (2)

…With Zaid’s good intent and by barring him from attending the raya gathering, Anwar is set to resume his practice of misrepresenting the facts about the special rights of sabah/sarawak stipulated under the formation of the federation of malaysia.
His act of steamrolling what is viewed as sacred by people of both the borneon states and forcibly imposing his own agenda reflects the same all too familiar malayan arrogance . It is like a flashed back to the good ol’ days before his and Mahathir’s allegations of PBS wanting to ceased being part of the federation were disproved, raising anew the question of whether he can’t separate fact from fiction or just cynically knows he can lie to the Malaysian people without consequence.
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Danildaud, I talked to Anwar just last week. He understands the situation and respects the aspirations of Sabahans. He will intervene to help in finding a solution to the leadership issue of PKR Sabah, not to worsen the situation. Give him a little time to figure out the best option to put PKR Sabah back on track.—Din Merican
By Danildaud on October 17, 2009 at 2:44 am

Anwar’s ghost continues to haunt him.
By Mr Bean on October 17, 2009 at 4:25 am

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I THINK I FOR ONE TRUST zaid ibrahim’s judgment on this more then i would anwar ibrahim’s judgment . hence , i am for Zaid Ibrahim going to SABAH.
SABAH and for that matter SARAWAK , never intended to be MALAY COLONIES , when they joined malaysia. so they should be allowed a free hand. otherwise secession would rear its ugly head.
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Peach, free hand? There is such a thing as party discipline. Neither Zaid nor Azmin can ignore the decision of the de facto leader and PKR’s biro politik on matters affecting the interest of PKR. Our colleagues in Sabah and Sarawak must understand what PKR stands for—KeADILan untuk Semua. They must bury their differences through dialogue and compromise in favour of the big picture. –Din Merican
By peach ann nacion on October 17, 2009 at 4:55 am

SABAH and for that matter SARAWAK , never intended to be MALAY COLONIES , when they joined malaysia-peach ann nacion

Unlike the distorted facts that you get from your history books , Sabah/Sarawak never joined Malaysia.
It must be emphasized that Sabah ,Sarawak ,Singapore and Malaya formed the federation of Malaysia.

In Sabah’s case it was
the 20-point agreement, or the 20-point memorandum, an agreement made between the state of Sabah (then North Borneo) with what would be the federal government of Malaysia prior to the formation of Malaysia in September 16, 1963. A similar agreement was made between the state of Sarawak and the federal government but with certain
differences.
The 20 point agreement was written for the main purpose of safeguarding the interests, rights, and the autonomy of the people of Sabah upon the formation of the federation of Malaysia. It was originally envisaged that Sabah be one of the four entities in the federation, the others being Malaya, Singapore, and Sarawak. However as times passed, Sabah and Sarawak has ended up being merely one of the 13 states in the federation.

There has been numerous calls for the agreement to be reviewed to take into account numerous factors that’ve been altered only to benefit the Malayan ruled central government.
To date, these cries have fallen on deaf ears. Anwar , whom many are counting on to provide the very much needed ractification of these lopsided affair seems more interested in hijacking the whole process once again.
By Danildaud on October 17, 2009 at 2:43 pm

danil ,
i am glad to inform you that the history book i read and the one you read is the same . i understood it exactly how you have spelled it out.
our good old prime minister of 22 years distorted this 20 point agreement too and accordingly short changed both sarawak and sabah . lee kuan yew was smart . he walked out the first opportunity he had and took singapore with him .
By:pPeach Ann Nacion

The Sabah/Sarawak issue

Najib has announced that Malaysia Day will be a national holiday.
If I were to make a choice between celebrating Merdeka Day or Malaysia Day, I would definitely choose the most sensible thing, i.e. Malaysia Day.
Merdeka Day? What’s Merdeka Day, it’s a silly joke because we are being colonised by the UMNOputra pirates. Anyway, most of these UMNOputras are not true Malays but the most rapacious opportunists descended from other races.
Come Merdeka Day, I won’t be celebrating it; instead I prefer to work and save it for Malaysia Day.
By vsp on

vsp,
yes .. the merdeka day holiday should be canceled . if merdeka day remains a holiday , then it should be called dr. mahathir ’s holiday and not merdeka day anymore . mahathir deceived the sabahans and sarawakians the most.
By salmiah hassan

Salmiah,

And way before mahathir it was tengku razaleigh.

As chairman of petronas , he systematically forced sabah to accept the 5%royalty deal.

When the first batched of ministers declined this lopsided offer, their plane crashed (which until today remains a mystery ) killing all 6 senior ministers on-board amongst them , the then sabah CM, Tun Fuad Stevens. It needs to be said that barely a day after the tragedy had gone by  a deal was struck favouring petronas.

Then came that mamak fella with the infamous ‘project ic mahathir’ legitimizing and with it came instant bumiputra status to hundredths of thousands of those transition population from indo and the philippines ,forever altering demographics of the state.

This is why , although with the majority of genuine sabahans opting for change and yet ,BN seems to emerge victorious , elections after elections .
So ,lets be more sensible and not entirely blame the dusun,bajau ,iranun folks for any of pakatans defeat over here in Sabah.

AND now , after all those hungry years , Najib another of the torchbearer has decided to go out on a fishing expedition hoping to captivate the hearts and minds of sabah/sarawakians with his malaysia day a national day pledge.
Well , with due respect Mr.Prime Minister , this ain’t good enough. The national day pride has all but diminished.

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The malayan sultans along with their traditions and other aspects of the malayan heritage should’ve been kept on the other side of the fence and not be exported across the south china sea into the living rooms of East Malaysians.

As if , these feudalistic elements that came with strong racist policies (alien to the two Borneo entities) were not damning enough , Sabah/sarawak were yet again subjected to be parties of a copy right infringed Hawaiian love song turned national anthem with hardly any lyrics denoting traces of East Malaysian culture.

Unlike miniature states such as perlis and negeri sembilan or the entire peninsular for that matter , Sabah/Sarawak  since the formation of Malaysia have been givers not takers of the country,s  coffers . But despite being a pot of gold for the federation , federal appointed leaders in the likes of sweet prince razaleigh plundered the two states natural resources with the least consideration to the source and while the plundering continued  another of its appointed leader , an imported Keralan knight frequently used security as a bargaining tool. And inspite of agreements on security issues concerning sabah/sarawak prior to the formation of the federation  this keralan knight who made kedah his home legitimize the multitude of illegals for political capital , and in the process endangering the livelihood of genuine citizens.

In more recent times , kerismudin another name in the long list -band of penyamun spoke about Sabahans safety being his utmost priority , so as usual , the recycle garbage goes on display for all to see and sniff , adding further insult to injury.
Now , tell me how shall we grade azmin , who it seems is habouring similar fantasies?
By Danildaud on October 24, 2009

Like I suggested earlier there should be a law against carpetbaggers.
By Mr Bean on October 24, 2009

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